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Fat Shaming, Fat People Hate, Reverse Thinspo: what do you think?

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2.4K views 15 replies 8 participants last post by  riverfading  
#1 ·
Hello MPA.

I am currently obese and have been bulimic for almost 2 years now. Over my time frequenting sites like this and following thinspo and ED related stuff online, I have seen more and more cases of reverse thinspo as a way to motive weight loss.

I personally usually look at thin people for motivation but I can understand why looking at fat people could be motivating too. Today I found a subreddit called Fat People Hate (http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplehate/) and had a long look through all the posts. Honestly, I got really upset looking at some of the posts there because I look like some of those people. Despite having an eating disorder and a huge desire to be thin those pictures made me feel inferior and like I was failing (which in a way I guess I am).

My question is: starting at a higher BMI, what is your opinion of fatspo/reverse thinspo/fat shaming/fat people hate posts?
 
#4 ·
I feel the same littlestar156, looking at it just makes me really low. I'm very much like you LilithEnchanted, I dislike the look of fat people but I wouldn't treat them any differently. I think a huge part of the reason I dislike that look though is because of the way I look and the feelings I have towards myself being projected onto other like-people. It is a very conflicted mindset to have in my opinion.
 
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#5 ·
OP, I don't mean this in a rude way, but stay out of /r/fatpeoplehate. They're horrible, and even not looking like any of the people that they hate on makes me feel bad. They've gotten to the point where they act as thought overweight people are subhuman.

Anyhow, I never really understand reverse thinspo. It doesn't inspire me to do anything, just like reg/ thinspo doesn't do much for me. They're just people. I mean, of course I know that those people are what I don't want to look like, but I have plenty of people who surround me already that remind me of that just by existing in the state that they do. But if I had to be honest, it makes me feel horrible to compare myself to someone who's much larger. Not because of my own size, but because I know a lot of them don't feel good about themselves anyway,
 
#6 ·
OP, I don't mean this in a rude way, but stay out of /r/fatpeoplehate. They're horrible, and even not looking like any of the people that they hate on makes me feel bad. They've gotten to the point where they act as thought overweight people are subhuman.

Anyhow, I never really understand reverse thinspo. It doesn't inspire me to do anything, just like reg/ thinspo doesn't do much for me. They're just people. I mean, of course I know that those people are what I don't want to look like, but I have plenty of people who surround me already that remind me of that just by existing in the state that they do. But if I had to be honest, it makes me feel horrible to compare myself to someone who's much larger. Not because of my own size, but because I know a lot of them don't feel good about themselves anyway,
I definitely agree with you. Today has been the first day I've went on that site and never again! It was a terrible experience. I think the only thing a site like that will make me do is become paranoid that people will look at me and make comments about me like that.
 
#7 ·
See the thing that is wrong with that site is that if you used to be overweight or etc, you still receive hate, or remarks like "Congrats, former fatass," or if you say you were formerly overweight, you could be banned.

Da faq.
Additionally, they applaud their children for insulting other children at school who are overweight or are more thick-which often goes away by the time you're a teen. I say this group is a horrid category of people, who will just continue to raise horrid children. I dislike them.

I don't often look at reverse thinspo, because I feel like it's disrespect for those who are, errr, bigger than me. I just.. I have my morals. While they hate and sneer at overweight people working out, I applaud them. While they encourage their children to bully people different than themselves, I will not tolerate it from my own.
I am not saying being overweight is a good thing or healthy, I;m just saying that their is a mutual respect that should always be in existence.
 
#8 ·
See the thing that is wrong with that site is that if you used to be overweight or etc, you still receive hate, or remarks like "Congrats, former fatass," or if you say you were formerly overweight, you could be banned.

Da faq.
Additionally, they applaud their children for insulting other children at school who are overweight or are more thick-which often goes away by the time you're a teen. I say this group is a horrid category of people, who will just continue to raise horrid children. I dislike them.

I don't often look at reverse thinspo, because I feel like it's disrespect for those who are, errr, bigger than me. I just.. I have my morals. While they hate and sneer at overweight people working out, I applaud them. While they encourage their children to bully people different than themselves, I will not tolerate it from my own.
I am not saying being overweight is a good thing or healthy, I;m just saying that their is a mutual respect that should always be in existence.
You have a very good way of explaining your views. I agree whole-heartedly.
 
#9 ·
Ohi. I actually think I'm one of those people who feel strangely more motivated by considering "what not to look like" instead of "what to look like". Which seem incoherent and slightly hypocrite, seen that: 1) despite not being an active fat-acceptance speaker, I do fight for equality in judgment and I tend to be greatly irritated by anything/anyone proclaiming a double-standard; 2) I was by the line of obesity while growing up, so I did experience a least a bit of the huge disappointment you read in people's eyes when you're not ("stubbornly" -.- ) conforming to cultural standards. The reason why thinspo doesn't really work on me is that I can't see myself - not even for a moment, not even as an ultimate goal - as a skinny person. Pictures intimidate me and crush my self-confidence in the possibility to even remotely reach them. When I look at "fat" people, instead, I feel like I belong there, like I was looking at a close relative from a family I'm both trying to escape from and towards which I have deep feelings of compassion. I never forget there's a fellow human underneath that skin (which is probably what the people posting on there do), whereas I do indeed forget who's behind a size zero, which would make dieting a relationship with a cold bony robot instead of a struggling family member.

I'm sorry if I've gone too much into details, I just seized the chance to do some thinking :) I've never hung around that or any similar site, by the way, and I'm extremely sorry for the impact it's had on you and, I hope, on most people who may stumble on it. As I see it, fat-shaming is a deeply emotional form of racism that releases the culture's tension originated by the myths of independence, progress, success, self-sufficiency and overall supremacy over primary needs. The anger and disgust that come out so strongly is (again: just my opinion) the pain the today's western societies carry thanks to the obsession over values that requires us to sacrifice some key aspect of human live (love, food, time etc.). Fat, this way, represents failure. Fat people fail to be in control, fail to devote themselves to perfection, fail to be inhuman. And that is both intensively seductive (look at the dark sides of fat acceptance) and utterly unacceptable, so it needs to be fixed.

Again, I wrote to muchxD
 
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#10 ·
Ohi. I actually think I'm one of those people who feel strangely more motivated by considering "what not to look like" instead of "what to look like". Which seem incoherent and slightly hypocrite, seen that: 1) despite not being an active fat-acceptance speaker, I do fight for equality in judgment and I tend to be greatly irritated by anything/anyone proclaiming a double-standard; 2) I was by the line of obesity while growing up, so I did experience a least a bit of the huge disappointment you read in people's eyes when you're not ("stubbornly" -.- ) conforming to cultural standards. The reason why thinspo doesn't really work on me is that I can't see myself - not even for a moment, not even as an ultimate goal - as a skinny person. Pictures intimidate me and crush my self-confidence in the possibility to even remotely reach them. When I look at "fat" people, instead, I feel like I belong there, like I was looking at a close relative from a family I'm both trying to escape from and towards which I have deep feelings of compassion. I never forget there's a fellow human underneath that skin (which is probably what the people posting on there do), whereas I do indeed forget who's behind a size zero, which would make dieting a relationship with a cold bony robot instead of a struggling family member.

I'm sorry if I've gone too much into details, I just seized the chance to do some thinking :) I've never hung around that or any similar site, by the way, and I'm extremely sorry for the impact it's had on you and, I hope, on most people who may stumble on it. As I see it, fat-shaming is a deeply emotional form of racism that releases the culture's tension originated by the myths of independence, progress, success, self-sufficiency and overall supremacy over primary needs. The anger and disgust that come out so strongly is (again: just my opinion) the pain the today's western societies carry thanks to the obsession over values that requires us to sacrifice some key aspect of human live (love, food, time etc.). Fat, this way, represents failure. Fat people fail to be in control, fail to devote themselves to perfection, fail to be inhuman. And that is both intensively seductive (look at the dark sides of fat acceptance) and utterly unacceptable, so it needs to be fixed.

Again, I wrote to muchxD
Your point of view (although different from my own in terms of thinspo not working for you) is really interesting! Your last paragraph about it being a symptom (I can't think of a better word) of our culture is really quite insightful. Perhaps it is! I've read online before that ED sufferers who restrict often feel supremacy from suppressing their needs when others around them are indulging in them. It is definitely worth some thought.

Thanks for the great contribution!
 
#14 ·
I really think these people are mentally defective. They must have truly empty lives to focus all their energy on people because they don't approve of their pants size. Seriously, there are child molesters out there and this what they expend their energy on? Pathetic keyboard warriors hating on people whose greatest crime was that they gained weight?

I don't find fat shaming to be motivating. I feel motivated when encouraged and surrounded by positive people, like on these boards. I feel motivated by focusing on moving towards a thinner, happier image of myself rather than exposing myself to judgment, shame and vilification.

xxx
 
#15 ·
I am weirdly addicted to it. I can't stop. It's completely against how I feel, and yet it's also so majority triggering. I also have an irrational fear of seeing a picture of me there. But I am a normal weight now, it's just I see people with my body type called a mini moon and fat there (assuming I can actually tell my body type, I tend to overestimated a lot).

I noticed fatpeoplehate has gotten narrower and narrower on their definition of normal weight for girls, too. Especially for bikini pictures. I've seen clearly underweight girls called normal and normal girls called chubby. It's becoming more and more common, too. And some people have been pointing it out there and called fat sympathetic.

If you guys want a subreddit less aggressive try fatlogic. It's more attacking the logic that keeps society obese then actual obese people. And a lot of the members are overweight/obese and losing, formally overweight/obese, or recovered from an ed. It's a lot nicer.
 
#16 ·
Eh. Fat shaming comes from people with very deep and very intense insecurities and self-loathing. I've always found that people who are secure and happy with their bodies don't even notice my weight. So I avoid stuff like that because it reminds me of how much most of the world hates itself. Very sad.