go vegan

do it for the animals & planet earth

ps paleo can suck my big fat vegan non-existant DICK

 

I was vegetarian and vegan, on separate accounts.

NAH. to all of it. I just eat biblically clean, so no shellfish, pork, the like. Been the healthiest I ever have and it is pretty accommodating.

I was my HW as a vegetarian, and could not get under 125 as a vegan without having a lot of other health symptoms. JS.

 

Vegan. Humans were never meant to eat animals/animal products in the first place. If you can't give up dairy or meat, at least buy it from a small, local farmer who treats animals fairly.

 

If you don't care about ethics, veganism might be tough. Vegetarian gives you a lot of reason to decline food though. Espeecially if you mom is going full paleo, then you can say no to lots of her food. Beware of avocadoes, coconuts and nuts though. So many paleo recipes overdo all three and they're really calorie dense. No matter what anyone tells you, in the end, number of calories will matter more than diet composition.

I've mostly seen paleo work because a lot of them also do intermittent fasting and carb restriction. Who knows, might work for your mom. You'd have to really like meat though. If you do, I'd try a ketogenic diet with all the readily available meat. It gives really fast results at the beginning.

 

Giving up dairy and meat aside from fish will make you lose sooo much weight
But it's hard af. I'm Pesco aka vegetarian minus fish. It saves so many calories, just start with that and phase into strict vegetarianism or vegan is my or something if you'd like.
At least be Pesco, save the animals and makes you skinnh

 

What I'd advise: Go vegan. Ethical and healthy.

What I am: Vegetarian.

What I wish was ethical and healthy: Mmmm...bacon.

 

I'm vegetarian, lacto-ovo and I truly love it! Easier to eat clean and still get all nutrients you need.

 

If you don't care about ethics, veganism might be tough. Vegetarian gives you a lot of reason to decline food though. Espeecially if you mom is going full paleo, then you can say no to lots of her food. Beware of avocadoes, coconuts and nuts though. So many paleo recipes overdo all three and they're really calorie dense. No matter what anyone tells you, in the end, number of calories will matter more than diet composition.

I've mostly seen paleo work because a lot of them also do intermittent fasting and carb restriction. Who knows, might work for your mom. You'd have to really like meat though. If you do, I'd try a ketogenic diet with all the readily available meat. It gives really fast results at the beginning.

Ok, so for real, what you said in bold here is absolutely true. BUT - I have to put in something here.

I was at my high weight as a vegetarian, and was counting cals. I could not break 138 for MONTHS. So then I dropped to veganism, got to 125, and had the same problem. Finally, I said fuck it, and ate meat in my restriction, and started losing again. Thus, I have to support eating meat at least in my scenario because idk what the fuck was going on there.

I was careful to get plenty of proteins and macros and vitamins too, btw.

 

I'm too lazy to be vegan.

I'm content to be a vegetarian.

 

So many different perspectives!!! I am leaning toward pescatarianism or lacto-ovo (though I really never have dairy or eggs) but do find what someone said earlier about not being able to lose on a veggie diet kind of worrying

 

we are omnivores. you will never make the entire world turn vegan, you can try and make animals be treated better though.

just let people eat what they want. IDC what you have on your plate, not to mention theyve been having to tear down some tropical forrest in the recent years to create new farms to accommodate the growing popularity, which seems sightly counter productive, but hey, not my choice...

the only time ive honestly felt bad about being a meat eater infront of a vegetarian is when a professor i like is a vegetarian and someone said something i forget what and suddenly i was like

"PIGS ARE DELICIOUS!" i gasped and looked at her and said sorry and she laughed xD then went on a 3 min speel how intelligent they are, shes nice about that, she really doesnt try n shove it down your throat.

I dont understand the sheep argument though, theyve been bred to produce wool never ending.. them bitches need clipped... look up the sheep from Europe that got lost from the herd and was found in a cave ten years later couldnt walk its wool was too long lol...

also pigs these days that are bred on farms arent that smart due to farmers not giving a crap about that aspect of them when breeding

though i feel so awful at the state fair ever since i asked a farmer once, "the pig that won the competition, what will happen to him?" the farmer laughed and said hes not sure, he might still be good for pepperoni but probably not, apparently once they hit a certain level of fatness they arent edible.

which is really... sad

I also feel bad for the animals in the local wild life place, i understand not socializing with animals they intend to heal then release, but they have a few that will never be able to go back to the wild and i asked what a screech owls name was, because the guy said it was very unusual that he talks so much but since he grew up at the wild life place he i probably just mimicking, anyways he said

"we dont name the animals. we respect them as animals"

ohkay thats cool for the ones you release, but now i feel bad for the adorable owl that will never fly, lives in a cage, and you guys dont even socialize with him xD

 

I don't eat meat anymore. Not really "by choice" but more just because I go in the habit of it and now meat is too scary

 

Consider pescatarianism! It's a lot easier to give yourself some wiggle room, especially at restaurants that aren't as vegetarian friendly. It's also easier to meet your nutrient requirements.

A lot of Asian foods might seem vegetarian, or even vegan, but then they'll have some sort of fish sauce or or oyster sauce or shrimp paste! It's just so much easier if you consume a lot of Asian food.

Besides... salmon. You can find sustainable sources of salmon, and they're so yummy. I might cry.

 

I got to my lowest weight as a vegetarian. But it took a while for me to understand what a balanced diet is. In the beginning I mostly ate pasta and bread with delicious toppings.

I am vegan now (for ethical reasons) and used it as a tool to recover because eating vegan was as guilt free as it can get which really helped me in the recovery process.
Now I eat mostly vegetables and grains, sometimes fake meat and tofu. And pasta when I binge.

 

Fish is awesome. I spent the past 2 weeks eating huge serving (6-7 oz at times) of fish and it's so low cal compared to chicken and high protein compared to veg. options. I personally like to have protein with all my meals and hate that so many veg. options have so many carbs. Like, I like pasta and bread, I don't need the toppings to be high carb too. Veg. meats have come a long way though if you want to mix it up sometimes. Veg. cheese, not so much.

 

Vegan. Humans were never meant to eat animals/animal products in the first place. If you can't give up dairy or meat, at least buy it from a small, local farmer who treats animals fairly.

got a source for that one buddy?

edit: though i do agree to an extent - we were never meant to eat dairy and we eat far too much meat.

 

Thank you thank you guys

 

Fish is awesome. I spent the past 2 weeks eating huge serving (6-7 oz at times) of fish and it's so low cal compared to chicken and high protein compared to veg. options. I personally like to have protein with all my meals and hate that so many veg. options have so many carbs. Like, I like pasta and bread, I don't need the toppings to be high carb too. Veg. meats have come a long way though if you want to mix it up sometimes. Veg. cheese, not so much.

fish is so good for your eyes.

 

got a source for that one buddy?

edit: though i do agree to an extent - we were never meant to eat dairy and we eat far too much meat.

Sure, pal.

http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm

http://www.peta.org/features/are-humans-supposed-to-eat-meat/ (I know, it's PETA, but what the heck, may as well.)

http://www.rense.com/general20/meant.htm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/shattering-the-meat-myth_b_214390.html

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/05/19/478645426/humans-are-meathooked-but-not-designed-for-meat-eating

http://mindfullybliss.com/humans-are-designed-to-eat-meat/

 

I'm like slightly vegan but more vegetarian. I don't really eat any animal products (except for chicken occasionally and fish rarely). I don't really eat red meat. I also just don't really drink/eat dairy products. If I do then it's pretty rarely. Like maybe once a month? If even that. I just don't go out of my way to avoid animal products (honey, gelatin, etc).

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Ethical

 

Vegetarian is the best for your health and is easier to keep up than veganism. Veganism is better ethically, but really isn't quite as nutritionally good for you.

 

I'm vegetarian but only because I find meat absolutely disgusting. I don't think I'll ever go vegan simply because I love cheese and milk too much lol, but if you can then I would highly recommend it!

 

Sure, pal.

http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm

http://www.peta.org/features/are-humans-supposed-to-eat-meat/ (I know, it's PETA, but what the heck, may as well.)

http://www.rense.com/general20/meant.htm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/shattering-the-meat-myth_b_214390.html

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/05/19/478645426/humans-are-meathooked-but-not-designed-for-meat-eating

http://mindfullybliss.com/humans-are-designed-to-eat-meat/

Two of these are tabloids, one is clickbait, two are just pure woo, one is a heavily biased source.

Try a medical journal or a university study and get back to me.

 

Vegan for health but you can't be an 'oreo vegan' (junk food vegan)
Look up nutritionfacts.org a non-profit, all donations sent to charity run site, by a nutritionist doctor who goes over the latest health research. He has an app too, for food choice guidance called daily dozen. Very helpful; cleared up my severe anemia and deathly asthma/bronchitis from a omniverous diet. Make sure to especially get b12 (a soil based nutrient that everyone has to get from fortified foods because all soil is depleted) and balance your oil intake (omega 3's : omega 6's) at a 1:3 ratio. (3's= flax, walnuts, chia, algae supplement) (6's =oils)