i incessantly bitch about this. recovery to anyone not disordered is, "eat, gain weight, stop having all your issues instantly"

but their forcing recovery on disordered people never ever involves treating the underlying cause of the disorder. so if you're depressed say because of school? that never gets solved, so you "recover" and gain weight, but you're still depressed, relapse, and everyone is like, "WHY Can't the sad anorexic girl we never helped emotionally just GET OVER anorexia?"

recovery should be first emotional, then fixing situational stress or finding coping mechanisms that vaguely work, THEN focusing on weight gain.

 

I takes much more time. The most difficult work is the mental work. Gaining weight is very easy compared with that. There is a reason and character patterns why you have an ED.

 

Idk it is for some people.

Partial recovery is also a thing.

 

Exactlyyyy but do you think it's ever possible to fully recover mentally

i incessantly bitch about this. recovery to anyone not disordered is, "eat, gain weight, stop having all your issues instantly"

but their forcing recovery on disordered people never ever involves treating the underlying cause of the disorder. so if you're depressed say because of school? that never gets solved, so you "recover" and gain weight, but you're still depressed, relapse, and everyone is like, "WHY Can't the sad anorexic girl we never helped emotionally just GET OVER anorexia?"

recovery should be first emotional, then fixing situational stress or finding coping mechanisms that vaguely work, THEN focusing on weight gain.

 

Exactlyyyy but do you think it's ever possible to fully recover mentally

Some people certainly do. It takes a long time though.

 

I feel the same
There's no such thing as recovery for me.
Ill probably stay like this forever 😐

 

I agree with the idea that weight gain should come after the patient has had therapy and is emotionally ready but at the same time a lot of people will further lose into the danger zone and at that point medical intervention is necessary. However I think stabilization is the main thing they should aim for before they consider weight gain. It's hard. And yeah I feel you on the recovery is bullshit. I've recovered supposedly what three times now I don't even remember. And now I'm at my worst. I've never purged before and now I'm basically addicted to it. I'm practically going thru withdrawals today. So yeah, recovery is nowhere in sight for me and my weight is normal so no one gives a shit.

 

People who treat Ed's are rigid AF. I was within range, and my dietitian still wanted a weight gain goal. Their idea of treatment is weight gain = good, exercise = bad. They refuse to respect that it is primarily psychological. I couldn't bear the weight gain psychologically and already lost most of it, but she doesn't know.

 

I know someone that is. The longer you ignore the thoughts and urges the more is fades is what I have heard.

 

In some cases you can't do mental treatment first and then the weight gain. It has to come together or first the weight treatment. That is the case for patients who are emaciated. The mental work can take years, if weight gain was done after, it means they are risking death, organ failure in the meantime. Another reason is that usually emaciated patients with low bmis have brain fog and it is hard for them to actually think rationally. I remember my doctor saying that we are going to talk, but it is not going to be very beneficial because I have a bmi too low to think clearly. She was right but at that time I did not understand and got mad. I did the mental work after my treatment in inpatient. I don't say I recovered because I haven't but I am significantly better now.

 

I don't think it's bullshit, I definitely agree that a lot of people's approaches is bullshit!

I do believe that in the veryyyy beginning people just got to get some nutrients. But with therapeutic and empathetic people there with them the whole way. Push away some of that brain fog, then get more heavily into the mental healing.

It's true that a lot of professionals (and outside support people) think everything should be fine once you're weight restored and it's total bullshit.

My dietician actually said to me that it didn't matter if my ED thoughts were strong, as long as I was eating like.......the audacity lmao.

 

People try to force me into the nearest hospital bed when I'm a BMI of 16 and feel fine, but when I beg for a doctors appointment to figure out why my hair is falling out in giant clumps at BMI 18, nobody does anything.

It doesn't seem to matter how much you're suffering as long as you look "normal", and you are treated accordingly.

I'm really young compared to the vast majority of mpa users, but I find myself giving up on recovery a little more every day. Is it even worth it if I'll never have a "normal" relationship with food or my body? What's the point of the money and the therapy and the hospital stays and losing my teenage years to a recovery that I might not even get?

 

i incessantly bitch about this. recovery to anyone not disordered is, "eat, gain weight, stop having all your issues instantly"
but their forcing recovery on disordered people never ever involves treating the underlying cause of the disorder. so if you're depressed say because of school? that never gets solved, so you "recover" and gain weight, but you're still depressed, relapse, and everyone is like, "WHY Can't the sad anorexic girl we never helped emotionally just GET OVER anorexia?"
recovery should be first emotional, then fixing situational stress or finding coping mechanisms that vaguely work, THEN focusing on weight gain.

I agree that recovery should be 'forced' as infrequently as possible and that it is a good thing to work through some of the contributing factors to the disorder, however from a medical stand point it is recommended to restore a patient to a healthy weight in order to effectively finish with the work on those other factors. A lot of it has to do with rehabilitating the brain. A lot of this work can't happen until the patient is stabilized in this way.

 

Don't give up! Recovery is definitely possible. It is an arduous process, but if you have a good support network and are able to put in the time and dedication necessary to combat the illness it is totally doable! The piece that most people struggle with at the end is body image, which is normally the last piece to fall, into place. It basically just takes time and reminding yourself that there are things in life that you ultimately value more than a certain body image that require the energy that food can provide to accomplish those things. But yeah, especially at the beginning it can be scary and challenging to have to try and ignore impulses to restrict and use healthier methods of coping instead of destructive ones.

 

Recovering from a severe mental illness such as eating disorder is not bullshit

Also , weight gain or loss , is not needed at all unless you are either extremely under or overweight

This is mental illness for a reason

 

i incessantly bitch about this. recovery to anyone not disordered is, "eat, gain weight, stop having all your issues instantly"
but their forcing recovery on disordered people never ever involves treating the underlying cause of the disorder. so if you're depressed say because of school? that never gets solved, so you "recover" and gain weight, but you're still depressed, relapse, and everyone is like, "WHY Can't the sad anorexic girl we never helped emotionally just GET OVER anorexia?"
recovery should be first emotional, then fixing situational stress or finding coping mechanisms that vaguely work, THEN focusing on weight gain.

100% this

 

It saves the lives of some people but for me it's never worked. It's never honestly helped me. After forced recovery I gained two hundred pounds because my relationship with food was so unhealthy. Thankfully I've lost over a hundred of that but now I've been stuck in a relapse/recovery cycle for what feels like eons. It can get me to eat again but it can't get me to have a healthy relationship with food or get rid of that anorexic voice in my head. I've given up at this point. I'm not going to bother with recovery unless it's one day a choice between that and dying.

 

Been on the recovery relapse recovery relapse train for so long I have accepted this as my lot

 

Been on the recovery relapse recovery relapse train for so long I have accepted this as my lot

Yup same I've been thru this cycle what...four times I think? Five? Honestly seems like more.

 

instead of being underweight and miserable Im fat and miserable

 

Recovery itself isn't bullsh*t, it's necessary and will save your life. Even if your physical health is OK, when you don't have any ED, you can truly live: dinner with friends, ice cream with your partner, trying a delicious food just because. Recovery is worth it.

The problem is the health system. Worldwide. It treats EDs like a choice, anorexic women like stupid immature girls who don't want to eat because they see themselves fat. They make you eat more and send you fake messages of body positivity. And many 'normies' are like that, too.

 

yes. yes it is.

 

Nope not Bullshit! Been in active rececovery for 9 1/2 months and never been happier. I came back here to remind me how shitty things used to be and help people if I can. It's 100% real, but your ED won't like. You have to completely give up on the beliefs you've held for years and build a new identity that has nothing to do with how you look. And stop weighing. But it's the best decision I've ever made and my life finally means something.

EDIT: Feel free to DM me to ask about it. I don't talk about the process on public forums because the process goes against everything most people on this site are about, so people still actively ill and not seeking to get better might hate. You can also check out my old posts to see where i came from!

 

Nope not Bullshit! Been in active rececovery for 9 1/2 months and never been happier. I came back here to remind me how shitty things used to be and help people if I can. It's 100% real, but your ED won't like. You have to completely give up on the beliefs you've held for years and build a new identity that has nothing to do with how you look. And stop weighing. But it's the best decision I've ever made and my life finally means something.

Thank you for sharing...I've personally been considering going residential to really kick this ED to the curb. It's so lovely to read about someone who has been there and yet is kicking ass in recovery. So proud of you and thank you for inspiring others

 

Thank you for sharing...I've personally been considering going residential to really kick this ED to the curb. It's so lovely to read about someone who has been there and yet is kicking ass in recovery. So proud of you and thank you for inspiring others

I also want you to know since you've expressed a little interest in the topic that I recovered without going to treatment. I'd been to residential 3 times before and the weekend I decided to get better I was the sickest I'd ever been in my life. More important than your team/treatment is a determination to do whatever it takes to stop living this way. And thanks so much for the support! I'm an actor and I am kicking ass these days. Telling stories on stage and moving peoples souls makes it worth it to get up in the morning and keep eating.